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Reddit User Finds 127 Old Bitcoins at Grandpa’s House – Pockets Over $4 Million After Selling

11/01/2021 by Idelto Editor

A Reddit user says he (or she) recently regained access to the keys of 127 bitcoins eight years after last accessing the coins. Immediately after regaining access, the user sold all the bitcoins and pocketed over $4 million in the process. According to the user, they received the bitcoins as payment for participating in surveys and some random online tasks.

Bitcoin Keys in Old Computer

The user initally intended to purchase a valuable in-game currency called Uridium using the bitcoins as payment. Writing about their experience, the user who goes by the name Bitcoinholderthanku, explains how a visit to his grandparents’ home reunited him (or her) with the 127 bitcoins. In the post, the Reddit user begins his account saying:

I used to play Dark Orbit at my grandpa’s house, and I was there for around a week during the holidays. While I was there I was through his old Dell computer that I used to play the game and came across a .txt folder that was labelled ‘keys.’

Although the user claims they do not remember why they ultimately failed to buy the gaming currency, they are nonetheless grateful for the way things have turned out. After holding the coins for eight years, the Reddit user sold these on January 3 for a price of just under $34,000 each.

Liquidating the 127 BTC

Meanwhile, the Reddit user’s initial post generated interest with some users expressing doubts about the story. Others questioned how the user managed to liquidate all the 127 BTC when “even the largest exchanges have limits well under $100K/day of how much BTC you can trade on their platform.”

In the follow-up post, the user explains that after weighing the various liquidating options, they settled for selling “the assets through an OTC Principal Desk.” Next, the user explains this process unfolded:

I went back and forth between different companies and ultimately ended up selling all 127 bitcoins for a price of $33,439.02 per coin minus a 0.15% fee. The net was roughly $4.24 million.

Meanwhile, to prove that the story is real as demanded by some Redditors, the user has shared a screenshot that appears to show their checking account with a balance of $4.2 million on January 7. The user, however, says they “had to scribble out the title of the transaction” because they did want to reveal the identity of the company they dealt with.

Reddit User Finds 127 Old Bitcoins at Grandpa's House – Pockets Over $4 Million After Selling

The user ends by saying that after “hodl(ing) for 8-9 years which is more than the vast majority of crypto users”, he thinks he would “not have sold all the 127 bitcoins if given a second chance.”

Between the period of receiving the $4.2 million payment and the second Reddit post, the price of bitcoin went up by more than $7,000 to $41,000. Still, at the time of writing, the crypto had dropped and was trading at just above $35,000.

What are your thoughts about this story? Tell us what you think in the comments section below.

Filed Under: bank checking account, Bitcoin, Bitcoin OTC, bitcoin recovery, Crypto asset, crypto exchange, English, HODL, Key recovery, Lost Bitcoins, News Bitcoin, security, withdrawal limits

‘Huge Demand in India’ Spurs Zebpay to Launch OTC Bitcoin Trading Desk

30/07/2020 by Idelto Editor

'Huge Demand in India' Spurs Zebpay to Launch OTC Bitcoin Trading Desk

Indian cryptocurrency exchange Zebpay is launching an OTC bitcoin trading desk. The exchange has shared the details with news.Bitcoin.com, stating that “There is huge demand” among bitcoin traders and arbitrageurs in India for OTC desk services.

Zebpay Sees Huge Demand for OTC Crypto Trading in India

Zebpay’s OTC desk offers “deeper liquidity and private, more personalized service to institutions and individuals with large orders that might be hard to fill on an open exchange,” the exchange’s OTC page details. Customers can trade BTC against INR with a minimum order size of 5 BTC. Registration for the new service began on Saturday but the official launch date is set for Aug. 3.

Nirmal Ranga, Vice President of Trade at Zebpay, has shared some details with news.Bitcoin.com about his platform’s upcoming service. “OTC constituted 90% of our total business until 2018, when the Reserve Bank of India notice came into the picture,” he described, adding:

There is huge demand among traders and arbitrageurs in India for OTC desk services, and the recent supreme court decision reversing the ban has caught the attention of large investors and institutions eager to explore this new asset class.

In March, the Indian supreme court quashed the circular issued by the central bank, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which banned banks from providing services to crypto businesses, including exchanges. Zebpay exited India shortly after the ban but returned earlier this year with new management.

The new OTC service is aimed at “traders, arbitrageurs, HNIs, long-term investors, asset managers, and institutions that want to buy/sell bitcoin in bulk,” Ranga further shared. “It will give them the opportunity to trade large quantities without being affected by the skewing of prices these quantities might entail on open order books on any platform.”

“Our OTC liquidity will come largely through active participants on the platform,” Ranga clarified. “We have existing long-term relationships with a few liquidity providers, through which we provide maximum liquidity with minimal or negative slippage.” The executive elaborated:

We plan on launching with the BTC/INR pair and making that our singular focus in the near future. However we will assess the market demand for other asset classes and accordingly consider launching USDT/INR and ETH/INR.

What do you think about Zebpay launching an OTC desk? Let us know in the comments section below.

The post ‘Huge Demand in India’ Spurs Zebpay to Launch OTC Bitcoin Trading Desk appeared first on Bitcoin News.

Filed Under: Bitcoin OTC, English, Exchanges, inr btc, News Bitcoin, OTC desk, OTC Exchange, otc india, otc service, OTC Trades, OTC Trading, Over-the-counter, usdt otc, zebpay otc

How Institutional Investors Are Changing the Cryptocurrency Market

01/01/2019 by Idelto Editor

Institutional investors trading cryptocurrency gained ground in 2018, with a number of high profile players edging in and taking a seat at the table. Increased interest from larger investors may have played a part in supporting digital assets as well as distorting the market. 

Also Read: KPMG: Institutional Investment Key to Cryptoassets Growth

Will Crypto Markets Turn Bullish Again in 2019?

How Institutional Investors Are Changing the Cryptocurrency MarketLast year, reports emerged that George Soros and the Rockefeller family were beginning to take positions in the emergent crypto asset class, according to Bloomberg. The family’s $26 billion Soros Fund Management was supposedly considering trading digital assets. The Rockefeller family’s VC arm, Venrock, decided to take a different approach by partnering with Coinfund to assist entrepreneurs in launching blockchain businesses. 

Mike Novogratz, the chief executive officer of Galaxy Investment Partners, said he sees Q1 and Q2 2019 as a period when more institutions will start to come into crypto. He also expects the crypto markets to turn bullish again in 2019. 

Crypto Is Not a Playground Anymore

Previously, investors were hesitant to enter the crypto markets due to high volatility and lack of regulation, but this is changing, with large players starting to take positions. How Institutional Investors Are Changing the Cryptocurrency Market

Stefan Neagu, co-founder of digital identify management system Persona, said: “BTC attracted large players, as the institutional investors saw BTC as an investment instrument. This helped the crypto market because it was not a playground anymore, but rather the sandbox of a limited group of people with money from a real economy being shifted to the crypto market.”      

In 2018, over-the-counter (OTC) market makers have thrived, with many institutional traders shifting to OTC. Etoro announced that it had opened an OTC platform for institutional buyers and Coinbase and Hodl Hodl launched OTC desks in November. 

According to cryptocurrency research group Diar, institutional cryptocurrency trading on traditional exchanges has been diminishing in volume due to BTC being welcomed into major outfit portfolios this year. There has instead been a shift to OTC trading. 

During OTC market hours, there has seen an increase in BTC trading volume by 20 percent, while Grayscale’s Bitcoin Investment Trust (GBTC) volumes were down 35 percent in 2017 vs. 2018 for the same period. It seems institutional traders might be shifting towards higher liquidity OTC physical BTC markets. 

Coinbase records more BTC trading volume than Grayscale’s Bitcoin Investment Trust (GBTC) on its OTC markets where the institutional cryptocurrency product is listed.

Liquidity Issues and Susceptibility to Manipulation

Another issue with the cryptocurrency market is low liquidity and its susceptibility to manipulation. The increased entry of institutional investors may have helped anchor the current market and distort prices.

Neagu said: “I doubt that this [increased institutional investor] interest will cause liquidity issues. I don’t see any reason why the crypto market should be different than the stock market. As for distorting the prices, I don’t think that they would see any big ripples.” He added: “Let’s remember that the Mt. Gox trustee sold $230 million worth of BTC in four months, and they did it using exchanges, not OTC desks. For the moment, the “weight” of these institutional players is not that big to send the BTC price down.”

Hong Kong Crypto Regulations Favor Institutional Investors

In Asia, Hong Kong’s Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) has introduced new rules which limit crypto trading to institutionHow Institutional Investors Are Changing the Cryptocurrency Marketal investors. Licensed portfolio managers and funds that invest more than 10 percent of their portfolios in virtual assets are required to obtain a license which means only qualified institutional investors will be allowed to invest in virtual asset portfolios.   

Roger Lim of Singapore-based NEO Global Capital (NGC) explains that crypto regulation in East Asia are still fragmented. However, further regulation will drive both governance and the mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies. 

Lim said: “As institutional investors, high net worth individuals, and family offices continue to monitor and take cryptocurrency seriously, and with regulators working to improve standards and guidelines for adoption, I expect that the market will mature in parallel. If the industry can continue to shift gears and direct its attention towards this narrative of growth, I think it’s very likely that we will see a comeback in 2019.”

Crypto Custody Issues Must Be Addressed

Cryptocurrency custody lies in safeguarding crypto assets. Scarcely a month goes by without an exchange hacking, funds being lost, stolen or compromised, with little hope or possibility of recovery. It is in the interest of any financial institution holding assets for another party to lower the risk of theft.

According to the Bank of New York Mellon, there is increasing demand in the market for a traditional, established custodian to provide custody of cryptocurrencies. There have been a number of firms launching services to secure assets and there have been reports of major banks testing and in some cases rolling out crypto custody solutions. Nomura and Intercontinental Exchange have announced plans, and sources state that other major banks such as J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and Bank of New York Mellon are exploring offerings. Introduction of custody would also unlock large amounts of capital, blogs Tom Shaughnessy, founder of 51percent Crypto Research.

Coinbase has received approval from New York regulators to form a custodial firm for cryptocurrencies. Previously, CEO Brian Armstrong has acknowledged this issue stating that there is $10 billion of institutional money waiting on the sidelines and that the number one issue preventing these individuals from getting involved is the lack of secure custodial services. 

Will we see more institutional investors entering crypto in 2019? Let us know in the comments section below.


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The post How Institutional Investors Are Changing the Cryptocurrency Market appeared first on Bitcoin News.

Filed Under: (OTC) trading desk, Bitcoin OTC, coinbase custody, Coinfund, custodian, Economics, English, eToro, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, Grayscale's Bitcoin Investment Trust, Hong Kong, institutional investors, Liquidity, Mike Novogratz, Mt.Gox, N-Featured, Neo Global Capital, News Bitcoin, Nomura, Persona, Securities and Futures Commission of Hong Kong, Singapore, Stefan Neagu, Venrock, Venture Capital

20% of Financial Institutions Examining Starting Cryptocurrency Trading Soon

24/04/2018 by Idelto Editor

20% of Financial Institutions Examining Starting Cryptocurrency Trading Soon

The cryptocurrency trading market is about to receive an influx of more big banks, hedge funds and other financial institutions within the next few months to a year. A new survey shows that while most are keeping quiet in public about their crypto plans, many are preparing to enter the field.

Also Read: Barclays Testing the Waters for a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

Big Players Prepare to Charge

20% of Financial Institutions Examining Starting Cryptocurrency Trading SoonToronto-headquartered multinational information firm Thomson Reuters Corporation (NYSE: TRI), published a survey on Tuesday revealing that 20% of financial institutions are studying the possibility of entering the cryptocurrency trading space within the next 12 months period. Furthermore, 70% of those considering starting trading cryptocurrencies are planning to do so in the next three to six months, according to the survey.

The company says that the survey covered more than 400 of its clients across Thomson Reuters platforms including large asset managers, hedge funds and trading desks at the biggest banks. Over 300,000 financial professionals working in asset management, hedge funds and other institutions get access to cryptocurrency data (including price quotes for BTC, BCH and ETH) via the Thomson Reuters Eikon platform.

“Historically, the banking sector has been notoriously dismissive of the crypto movement. Cryptocurrency has variously been called a bubble, an asset for criminals, and worthless. But today’s survey demonstrates that while financial institutions are saying one thing, they’re doing quite another,” commented Kevin Murcko, CEO of cryptocurrency exchange Coinmetro. “We’re witnessing a gradual institutionalization of the market, and this is sure to drive mainstream adoption. The move to accommodate digital currencies is also a symbolic one; it’s a sign of growing maturity in the market, and represents just how far cryptocurrency has come since its days of relative obscurity,” he added.

Goldman Setting the Stage

20% of Financial Institutions Examining Starting Cryptocurrency Trading SoonThe most talked about major bank as widely considered to be in the process of entering the field is Goldman Sachs, although its CEO has denied in the past the rumors they are setting up a bitcoin trading desk. On Monday it was revealed that the company has recently hired Justin Schmidt, a former quantitative trader, to be the first head of digital asset markets in the company’s securities division.

“In response to client interest in various digital products, we are exploring how best to serve them in the space,” Goldman Sachs spokeswoman Tiffany Galvin-Cohen confirmed in a statement. “At this point, we have not reached a conclusion on the scope of our digital asset offering,” she added.

The bank should be more than aware of the huge demand hedge funds and other big investors have for cryptocurrency trading services. Circle, which is backed by Goldman Sachs, has recently doubled minimum ticket size on OTC bitcoin trades to $500,000 with an average of $1 million. And Chief executive Jeremy Allaire has told Business Insider that some transactions are now larger than $100 million and “That watermark will continue to rise.”

Do you think it’s inevitable that all major banks will enter the bitcoin trading ecosystem? Share your thoughts in the comments section below. 


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Filed Under: asset manager, Bitcoin OTC, Circle, Cryptocurrency Trading, English, Finance, Goldman Sachs, hedge fund, Hedge Funds, N-Featured, News Bitcoin, otc trade, OTC Trading, Thomson Reuters

Brazil’s Largest Brokerage Reportedly Working on OTC Bitcoin Brokerage

18/04/2018 by Idelto Editor

Brazil’s Largest Brokerage Reportedly Working on OTC Bitcoin Brokerage

The OTC bitcoin trading market appears to be attracting big banks and brokers from all over the world who wish to secure a piece of this growing pie for themselves. And the latest company that might create a brokerage specifically for the field is from the largest economy of South America. 

Also Read: Barclays Testing the Waters for a Cryptocurrency Trading Desk

XDEX OTC Brokerage

Brazil’s Largest Brokerage Reportedly Working on OTC Bitcoin BrokerageFinancial services firm XP Investimentos SA, operating the largest securities brokerage in Brazil, is reportedly working on a new venture in the cryptocurrency trading space. Back in October 2017 news.bitcoin.com reported that the company filed a patent for the brand XP Bitcoin, as its first entry into the cryptocurrency domain. Now the brokerage has been found to be behind a recently registered company, XDEX Intermediacao.

The group has not commented on the development and it is therefore not yet known exactly what services the new brokerage will provide. However, a source who did not want to be identified, told Portal do Bitcoin that the activity of XDEX will be in the over-the-counter market, meaning focused on movements of large volume transactions dealing in fiat and bitcoin.

Besides the significance of XP Investimentos entering the OTC bitcoin space, this can also mean that soon the biggest bank in Brazil will also be directly involved in the cryptocurrency market. Itaú Unibanco Holding SA has recently proposed to buy a 74.9% stake in the financial services firm and a 49.9% stake in XP’s voting capital for about $1.7 billion.

Growing Popularity in Brazil

Brazil’s Largest Brokerage Reportedly Working on OTC Bitcoin BrokerageBitcoin has been steadily gaining in popularity in Brazil, leading to number of interesting recent examples. Brazilian business and economics students have gotten universities to launch courses about the cryptocurrency, including a Master’s degree program. And the number of bitcoin investors in Brazil has surpassed the total number of individuals registered on the São Paulo Stock Exchange.

Brazil is the economic powerhouse of Latin America with an estimated GDP between $2 and $3 trillion. As such it should not be too difficult for the brokerage to find big investors among the country’s huge population of over 208 million people. As we reported earlier this month, big players in the cryptocurrency space have set up their own private network for global OTC trading, buying and selling billions every month among their little club. And instead of using any system usually employed by traders on Wall Street, they just close massive deals on Skype.

Do you think it’s inevitable that more brokers and banks will enter the bitcoin trading ecosystem? Share your thoughts in the comments section below. 


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Do you agree with us that Bitcoin is the best invention since sliced bread? Thought so. That’s why we are building this online universe revolving around anything and everything Bitcoin. We have a store. And a forum. And a casino, a pool and real-time price statistics.

The post Brazil’s Largest Brokerage Reportedly Working on OTC Bitcoin Brokerage appeared first on Bitcoin News.

Filed Under: Bitcoin Brokerage, Bitcoin OTC, Brazil, Brazilian, Emerging Markets, English, Itaú Unibanco Holding S.A., N-Featured, News Bitcoin, OTC Trading, Portal do Bitcoin, XDEX, XP Bitcoin, XP Investimentos

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